Normally when I’m on Facebook and see posts from conservatives I’ll read them, think about their points, and occasionally I can see where they’re coming from; I’m not an unreasonable person. I’ll largely disagree with them but I don’t usually find them completely ridiculous. This post on the other hand, so perfectly gave me an outline to what I have been thinking lately that I couldn’t let it pass.
Here is the original post:
“This post goes out to the 30: Contrary to popular or unpopular belief, I didn’t vote for the Republican presidential candidate in the last election. I voted for a pragmatist. To those of you who take exception to that and are posting your discourse regularly, here is my Counterpoint: You lost. You lost because the Democrat Party no longer stands for what America stands for. Do you want proof? After 8 years of the fecklessness and incompetence of Barack Obama, the Democratic Party has collapsed as a national political force. They’ve become a joke and it’s reflected by the whining in the “MSM”. Here are the facts: Since 2008 and under Democrat party “leadership”, the National Debt has gone from $8 trillion to $20 trillion. The Democrats have lost the White House, the Senate, the House, and they’re going to lose the Supreme Court. By 2020, it’ll be 6-3. Everything but gas is more expensive. They’ve lost over 1200 State seats since 2008. They’re only 1 state away from losing 2/3 of the State Governorships thereby giving Republicans the ability to convene a Constitutional Convention. The DNC had to lie, cheat, and steal in order to keep the Democratic Nomination away from a 74 year old white socialist (whose entire message was nothing more than a vote buying shill) just so they could shove the most morally and ethically corrupt, disingenuous political candidate in history down everyone’s throats…and they got slaughtered and yes…it was a slaughter. Without Los Angeles County and New York City, the popular vote would have swung by millions. Why did this happen? Because America finally woke up. Because the Democratic Party has been hijacked by a cabal of uber-wealthy elitists who deem themselves to be intellectually superior to the rest of us. It’s true. I see it every time I turn on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc., and I do watch them. I know “Parent to Child” when I see it. I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but I’m tired of being told how I should think and what I should believe by tenured, secular, public sector plutocrats and their patronizing minions in the media who are so full of themselves they can’t see the forest for the trees. The Democrats have no platform that isn’t based on taking advantage of those they consider to be inferior socially and mentally. Obama the Great ran on “hope and change”. Well, hope isn’t a strategy and change requires leadership. Too bad. He delivered nothing but more debt, a divided country, a wealthier richest 1%, twice as many people below the poverty line than in 2008, an insurance program that was in the process of collapse almost from day 1, and the rest is subjectively debatable. When John F Kennedy was elected he proclaimed “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” The Democrat party message today is “vote for us and we’ll give you stuff.” That’s it. Period. If you can’t hear it, you’re not listening. Beyond that there’s no message that doesn’t include throwing a tantrum: insults, violence, blocking traffic, grown women dressed as vaginas, pepper spraying those with opposing views, and burning college campuses. They’re not interested in helping mainstream America. They’re interested in helping themselves. They expect the government to serve as a prosthetic. They are the real racists because they only see race as something they can take advantage of for votes. They are the real bigots because they see themselves as being intellectually superior to those who are governed. Worst of all, they have no concept of servitude. They have no real vision for those they would govern other than to subjugate and divide for the sake of lining their own pockets. Worst of all, they still haven’t figured out that anyone capable of objective thought can see it. The election of Donald Trump proves it. That ridiculous press conference yesterday proves it. It’s not stupidity. It’s arrogance. No wonder their base is shrinking like a medicated hemorrhoid as Trump proceeds to fix what they’ve broken. Here’s the bad news for the left wing faithful: until the “leadership” of the Democrat party acknowledges that they have been and are the problem and not some vague phenomenon that doesn’t’ exist or an excuse that’s just an empty bucket and recognizes that accountability is a personal choice, they’ll sink further into insignificance. Quite frankly, they deserve it and it’s about time.”
Grab a snack and a drink because this is going to be a long one.
“This post goes out to the 30: Contrary to popular or unpopular belief, I didn’t vote for the Republican presidential candidate in the last election. I voted for a pragmatist. To those of you who take exception to that and are posting your discourse regularly, here is my Counterpoint: You lost. You lost because the Democrat Party no longer stands for what America stands for. Do you want proof? After 8 years of the fecklessness and incompetence of Barack Obama, the Democratic Party has collapsed as a national political force. They’ve become a joke and it’s reflected by the whining in the “MSM”.”
I would agree that the Democratic Party has strayed from what it was intended to be. It was supposed to be the party of the people but, as Thomas Frank explains in his book Listen, Liberal, a decision was made in “the ’70s, ’80s and ’90s where they convinced themselves that they needed to abandon working people in order to serve a different constituency: a constituency essentially of white-collar professionals.” These professionals (i.e. big business) give them a lot of money and that money talks. But are you really going to sit here and tell me that the Republican Party is so innocent? Even in more recent politics you see the evidence in how much Betsy DeVos, possibly the least qualified individual on Trump’s Cabinet, paid Republican senators for their support. In case you need a refresher, here’s a list:
If you’re going to sit there and try to say that the Republicans are so much more representative of the people, I’m going to have to call bullshit. All I see here is the preference of partisanship over truth, even if the truth is that both parties have a similar problem.
“Here are the facts: Since 2008 and under Democrat party “leadership”, the National Debt has gone from $8 trillion to $20 trillion.”
I am so glad you brought this up. Indeed, the national debt has increased since 2008, and this is due to the government spending more than it’s making, which is obviously the definition of debt. To decide how to lower the debt we have to figure out why exactly it’s increasing. This is believed to be due to four main factors:
- Military Spending – Following 9/11, the “War on Terror” nearly doubled the money spent from “$4 billion in 2003 to a peak of $855.1 billion in 2011.”
- Mandatory Spending – This refers to payouts for government programs, such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. and has exceeded “$2 trillion a year since [fiscal year] 2011.”
- The 2009 Economic Stimulus Package – The 2008 recession necessitated government intervention to push the country out of the recession, which it successfully did in the second quarter of 2009.
- Recession Reductions – Because the economy tanked, so did the revenues. It wasn’t until 2013 that the government revenue was able to recover to $2.78 trillion.
So, if you think we need to cut the deficit, these are the four biggest places to look at. I’m going to take a wild guess and say you don’t think military spending should be decreased. America at large is obsessed with the idea of militarism and the prowess it seemingly entails, but I can assure you that murdering people for the name of America isn’t patriotic, it’s just murder. I am grateful to those who have served our country, but I see many young men who go into the military because they see no other means of providing for themselves. Military service should be an active choice, not one made because no other option exists. But, let’s assume the cuts won’t come from there.
Of the last three items, I’m going to take another wild guess and say you’re looking at number two, thinking “look at all those handouts! Medicare?! Medicaid??! Oh, but wait Social Security… I want that…” Well, not only do these programs help people who can’t afford the astronomical cost of good health insurance, which averages $321 a month for individual care and $833 a month for a family plan, but politicians know that any attacks on these benefit programs is political suicide, so it’s probably not going to happen, especially if they want to get re-elected. Plus, these programs help people who are in need, including the elderly, not just the poor young, so cutting them hurts Americans more than it helps your misguided sense of how economics works. They may be called “entitlement programs,” but to those who desperately need them to survive, they are not hand-outs. Arguing we shouldn’t have these programs because some people might abuse them discredits all the hardworking Americans who have fallen on hard times and really need help. You would really take away their assistance just because you want to punish a few? So much for being for the people.
The final two items sort of speak for themselves, so I will instead discuss a different area, discussed by Forbes, which talks about wasteful spending. Congress spends billions of taxpayer dollars completely idiotically, including:
- “$1.1 billion on projects including an Army research study on the ability of elephants to detect bombs, puppet shows in Vermont, a dog-bite prevention website, and others.
- $294 billion on expired programs.
- $3,590,313 in travel expenses alone for the Obama family’s 2015 Christmas vacation to Honolulu.”
So, where is your outrage about this wasteful spending? Why are you so obsessed with the so-called “handouts” when our government is spending money on puppet shows? And that money Obama spent on his vacations, I agree is ridiculous. But if you’re angry about Obama’s trips you should be mindfucked over how much Trump is spending just a few weeks into his presidency on his trips to Mar-a-Lago. And no, it’s not free just because he owns it; it’s costing the taxpayers $3 million just for one trip. Since his inauguration he has been three times, totaling over $10 million, a bill which the taxpayers will have to pick up. (Also, just a side note, Obama may have spent a total of 230 days on vacation but Bush spent 530 days. Just saying.) And how about the cost of Melania Trump staying at Trump Tower in NYC? That’s going to cost $183 million per year. Now keep in mind these are estimates so that actual costs will probably be much greater. Where is that outrage again?
“The Democrats have lost the White House, the Senate, the House, and they’re going to lose the Supreme Court. By 2020, it’ll be 6-3.”
Want to know why? It’s partly due to a clever combination of gerrymandering and voter suppression. The whole idea of gerrymandering is that the districts will be drawn in such a way that the party will lose a few districts massively, but win the majority comfortably. It’s common practice for both parties to redraw the district when they are the majority, but that doesn’t mean it’s just. Take North Carolina, which has been accused of “political apartheid” in the morally corrupt ways it has drawn its voting districts. In 2010, the Republicans took control of both the NC House and Senate for the first time since 1870 and continued to used gerrymandering as a tool to keep their majority. I mean just look at these districts from 2014:
Looking at the top maps compared to the bottom map, you can’t possibly try to say you don’t see anything wrong. If you think your party has so much support, why are they so afraid to have a fair election? It’s because even if they do have the support, they don’t want to take a chance on losing. They would rather sacrifice the principles of a proper election than not be the majority.You have to realize that your “victory” comes with a pretty intense asterisk next to it. The second map shows that the Democratic party could do the same to the state, should they have the majority, and both should be illegal.
Voter suppression has also helped keep people who vote Democrat from reaching the polls. Those who vote Democrat are largely black, Asian, religiously unaffiliated, post-graduate women, Jewish, Hispanic, or from the Millennial generation. The Republicans argue their laws are for the reduction of voter fraud, but when voter fraud is about as common as claims of alien abduction, is it really that much of a threat? No, it’s just a distracting claim they make so that they can sneakily create laws that attack those who would vote against them. Referring again to North Carolina, a recent court case ruled the actions limiting voting access to be unconstitutional and that they targeted African-American voters with “almost surgical precision.” How did they do it? By collecting data on what demographic voted when, where, and with what ID. In various emails to the DMV, University of North Carolina, and other organizations, Republican party representatives asked question like:
“Is there any way to get a breakdown of the 2008 voter turnout, by race (white and black) and type of vote (early and Election Day)?”
“Is there no category for ‘Hispanic’ voter?”
“Can I get a breakdown, by race, of those registered voters in your database that do not have a driver’s license number?”
The GOP in North Carolina then proceeded to make laws based on the data they received, eliminating same-day voter registration, seven days of early voting and out-of-precinct voting, all of which were protected under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Their addition of what they said were “common sense” voter ID laws were not intended to be common sense at all, but rather to directly target liberal voters whose information they obtained directly from their inquiries to the DMV. Now, perhaps an ID requirement isn’t such a bad one, but to ban the use of IDs that are carried by people who predominantly vote democratic, is unconstitutional. Any state, university, or government-issued ID should be acceptable, and yet they have not been in North Carolina. So, don’t try to tell me Republicans represent the will of the people until they ensure elections are fair and open.
“The DNC had to lie, cheat, and steal in order to keep the Democratic Nomination away from a 74 year old white socialist (whose entire message was nothing more than a vote buying shill) just so they could shove the most morally and ethically corrupt, disingenuous political candidate in history down everyone’s throats.”
I have no problem with people thinking Bernie was too far left. He is a very progressive man and I think he has a lot of great ideas but I can understand when people are hesitant about him, being that they think the US isn’t already leaning toward socialism. It’s not a dirty word, people, and surprise, surprise, it already is. However, what I do have a problem with is the complete hypocrisy I see here. Hillary Clinton was painted as this massively compromised, unethical, baby murderer and spawn of Satan, who only wanted the presidency because it was supposedly her turn. Well, maybe the last part is true, who knows. What I do know is that if you think HRC using her private server created a national security problem, how about when Trump LITERALLY DISCUSSED A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DINING ROOM AT MAR-A-LAGO????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The security breach here is so obvious people were able to post on Facebook about it! Even the damn nuclear football was photographed! Where is your outrage at these security breaches? Oh, right it’s only an issue when a Democrat does it.
Is that staff member using a cell phone light to illuminate the papers? Wow, I bet that private cell phone is completely secure and doesn’t have a camera that could be hacked. Oh, and how about Trump and his very own staff using a private server still? Right, right, it’s fine when Republicans do it. My mistake, I keep forgetting these rules only apply to one side at a time.
And even if these facts weren’t enough, what about Trump’s cozy relationship with Russia? I’m still waiting on the outrage over the literal three separate scandals that have been unfolding in regards to Trump and Russia.
- Scandal One: Collusion against Hillary Clinton during the campaign
- Intelligence gathered by the FBI, CIA, and NSA concluded with “high confidence” that “Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election.”
- Why does Putin care who wins the election? Likely for various reasons, including and certainly not limited to, revenge on Clinton and money.
- If this had happened in reverse, the right would have rioted by now. But of course, when it happens to the Democrats, the means aren’t considered the best but the outcome is so wonderful, who cares?
- Scandal Two: Trump likely knew about the conversations Flynn had with Russia
- That Flynn would call the ambassador at all isn’t illegal or even unusual. What is illegal is him promising to lift the sanctions Obama placed on Russia on December 29th for their role in manipulating the election. This promise would be a sort of gift from Trump’s team to Russia for helping him win.
- Two separate sources confirmed that “Flynn had strongly implied that the Trump administration would be taking care of the sanctions,” therefore Russia need not retaliate by implementing sanctions on the US in return.
- In his mess of a press conference, Trump called Flynn a “wonderful man,” saying his treatment was unfair by the media, which means that he doesn’t see what Flynn did as wrong, nor does he think he should have had to leave his post because of it. This implies that Trump either knew about the calls because he told Flynn to make them, or upon finding out about them, didn’t have a problem with the deal Flynn was making.
- Scandal Three: Russia is likely blackmailing Trump
Don’t try to say Clinton was “the most morally and ethically corrupt, disingenuous political candidate in history” when this is our current administration. You have to either be trying really hard not to see it or just don’t care.
“Because the Democratic Party has been hijacked by a cabal of uber-wealthy elitists who deem themselves to be intellectually superior to the rest of us. It’s true. I see it every time I turn on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc., and I do watch them. I know “Parent to Child” when I see it.”
Look, I’ll be the first to say I think the media can be incredibly biased, but when you watch only FOX or only MSNBC you have to know you’re going to get the story from an angle. And there is no problem with having an angle. This piece has an angle. This difference is that within my angle are indisputable facts that I use to form the basis of my world view. I make sure I accurately represent quotes and the spirit of an article to the best of my ability. The problem comes when quotes are misrepresented, parts of a story are left out, or a million other ways opinions are swayed in an effort to force the angle on the viewers. There is no problem with an angle as long as all of the facts are presented, but historically this hasn’t been the case and I can see your frustration. But calling the media “fake news” when they don’t fall in line with your opinion is what dictators, not presidents, do. If you want your media to be better, demand they be better. Don’t disenfranchise them and listen only to the twitter ramblings of a jackass.
“I obviously can’t speak for everyone, but I’m tired of being told how I should think and what I should believe by tenured, secular, public sector plutocrats and their patronizing minions in the media who are so full of themselves they can’t see the forest for the trees.”
I have bolded “secular” because having a problem with the government being secular is like having a problem with hamburgers being made of meat. That’s literally how it’s supposed to be. Making government religious is like having a tofu burger; that’s not what it’s supposed to be made of and no one wants that shit. (Come at me vegans; your food tastes like sadness).
You’re opposed to plutocracy, as you should be, but think Trump is fine? He’s literally the definition of what you’re saying you dislike. So, I’m confused; do you hate plutocracy or do you just use it as a reason to hate others while thinking it’s okay when your side does it?
“The Democrats have no platform that isn’t based on taking advantage of those they consider to be inferior socially and mentally.”
Wow, you bring up mental inferiority a lot in one post. Are you projecting or what? But that’s beside the point. The point is that you think only the Democrats will take advantage of people. Do you honestly think that the Republicans aren’t taking advantage of you when they construct pipelines and abolish the EPA? You might enjoy cheaper gas prices if DAPL is completed, but you’re going to be paying an unbelievable amount of money to doctors from the poisoning you get from oil-polluted water, which is almost a certainty without the EPA to protect you. Imagine the horrors of watching your child seize from the lead found in water in Flint, Michigan, or the Bronx. Now imagine that’s happening to someone you actually know, actually care about. Imagine that on a national scale. That’s why the EPA and similar agencies exist and that’s how you’re being taken advantage of. The members of this administration will make a fortune while you choke on smoggy air and eat tainted produce.
“Obama the Great ran on “hope and change”. Well, hope isn’t a strategy and change requires leadership. Too bad. He delivered nothing but more debt, a divided country, a wealthier richest 1%, twice as many people below the poverty line than in 2008, an insurance program that was in the process of collapse almost from day 1, and the rest is subjectively debatable.”
Obama is argued by the right to be a horrible president, one that did next to nothing to help Americans. Well, it’s hard to push a progressive agenda when your Congress is a majority of the opposing side for most of your presidency. The only time there was Democratic control of both the Senate and House was a span of about four months from September 24, 2009 until February 4, 2010. The rest of the time he had to deal with Republican majorities, leading to the 112th Congress (January 2011-January 2013) being the least productive in terms of bills passed since 1973. You blame him, yet he is not the one completely at fault. He wasn’t perfect by any means but the blame falls not only on his shoulders, but Congress, too. And even with his imperfections, he is still ranked the 12th best president in US history. But, I bet you’ll just say this is “fake news” from liberal propaganda because this is how Trump is priming you to think; the second something isn’t in line with what you already believe it’s obviously a lie, so we’ll just keep moving right along.
And now we come to my personal favorite topic: The Affordable Care Act. The lack of understanding around how insurance works at a basic level leads people to make sweeping assumptions about the efficacy of the ACA, simply based on what their side is saying. While I am still doing my own homework, and will explain how it works in more detail in another piece, what I know for a fact is that the ACA is indeed a money suck. As it is set up currently, it’s economically unsustainable. And even so, it still needs to exist in some form. As an important member of the UN, there is a consensus that the U.S. has a “moral obligation and responsibility to act as a leader on the world stage.” Therefore, the expectation is that we will abide by the same laws of morality and ethics outlined by the UN. This means that under Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the removal of proper access to healthcare would be a human rights violation, under which the United States could face penalties. Not to mention taking away access to healthcare because of your own selfishness is unethical. So, to have a stable (and cheaper!) healthcare system, it has to be set up as a single-payer system. As I said, I’ll explain more in a later piece, but just know that I believe you’re both right and wrong.
“Beyond that there’s no message that doesn’t include throwing a tantrum: insults, violence, blocking traffic, grown women dressed as vaginas, pepper spraying those with opposing views, and burning college campuses. They’re not interested in helping mainstream America. They’re interested in helping themselves. They expect the government to serve as a prosthetic.”
You want to know why people are angry? It’s because they are having their rights taken from them left and right, but because it doesn’t affect you or change your world, you either don’t see it or just don’t care. Protesters block traffic because that roadblock you face just trying to get to where you’re going is emblematic of the roadblocks they face just by existing as they are. Women dress as vaginas because this government would take away their rights because they were born XX instead of XY. If you remember correctly, it was the police who pepper sprayed the protesters, not the other way around. And if you want to talk free speech on college campuses, which I’m sure you do, then explain to me why liberals wrong for shutting down Milo Yiannopoulos, but when Ana Kasparian of The Young Turks was blocked from speaking by conservatives, there was no outrage. Why is shutting down the right-wing troll bad but doing the same to a progressive is allowable? If you truly cared about free speech you should be angry in both instances. But you don’t, so you aren’t. Or how about when Elizabeth Warren was silenced in Congress? Why is blocking free speech a punishable offense when a right-winger is blocked but when a liberal senator is blocked, it’s perfectly allowable? I could go for days on the hypocrisy I see. Instead, I will implore you to think critically about your beliefs and what you see happening around you, and wonder whether you’re allowing your party to speak for you, rather than speaking for what is right.
“They are the real racists because they only see race as something they can take advantage of for votes. They are the real bigots because they see themselves as being intellectually superior to those who are governed.”
Again, with the intellectual inferiority complex. Dude, come on.
This part reminds me of Tomi Lahren’s appearance on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah when said that she doesn’t see color because “true diversity is diversity of thought, not color.” If you saw that video and thought “oh yeah, she’s right,” you are part of the problem. Diversity is diversity of color and culture, as well as thought, sure, but pretending to ignore the other aspects of diversity isn’t realistic. The “real racists” are people who commit racist acts or those who fail to stop racist acts when they see them. They are the people who let injustice unfold in front of their eyes, but say nothing because “they don’t see color,” so whatever is happening to this person must be deserved. Did Rev. Clementa Pickney, Cynthia Hurd, Tywanza Sanders, Sharonda Singleton, Rev. DePayne Middleton-Doctor, Rev. Daniel Simmons, Susan Jackson, Ethel Lance, and Myra Thompson deserve to be murdered by an American terrorist? (And don’t be mistaken, that’s exactly what this murderer is: an American terrorist.) Of course, not. But by your argument, the murderer isn’t a “real racist” because he didn’t do it for votes, just to try to start a race war. What about Deah Barakat, Yusor Abu-Salha, and Razan Abu-Salha, who were treasured members in the community of my alma mater, murdered because of a man’s bigotry toward Muslims? Was he not a bigot because his act was done out of hatred, instead of an attempt to get votes? The “real racists” are the ones using the threat of terrorism to capitalize on a nation’s fears so they can ban entire countries. The “real racists” are those who feel no sadness when a Quebec mosque is blown up because those who died were Muslim. The “real racists” are the people who, when discussing the murder of Sandra Bland, think it’s relevant to mention the that she was pulled over for a traffic violation. Is death the appropriate punishment for failing to signal properly? The “real racists” would say, for a black woman, it is.
The right frequently accuses the left of wielding race as a sword with which they attempt to cut down their opponent. Don’t do as we are accused and use it to try to make your weak argument. It reveals your own discomfort with race and feelings of intellectual inferiority.
“That ridiculous press conference yesterday proves it. It’s not stupidity. It’s arrogance. No wonder their base is shrinking like a medicated hemorrhoid as Trump proceeds to fix what they’ve broken. Here’s the bad news for the left wing faithful: until the “leadership” of the Democrat party acknowledges that they have been and are the problem and not some vague phenomenon that doesn’t’ exist or an excuse that’s just an empty bucket and recognizes that accountability is a personal choice, they’ll sink further into insignificance. Quite frankly, they deserve it and it’s about time.”
Well, at least we’re on the same page about that presser: it was ridiculous. It was a nauseating disaster that made Trump look like an idiot and, by that, I mean it made him look like himself. If you listened to that press conference and heard anything more than an insecure man making national issues about himself, you weren’t being objective. Nothing about that press conference should have made you feel proud of Trump; he made a fool of himself and gave no information to the people about how he’s going to “make America great again.” He is still stringing you along with vague promises that you’ll eat it up like candy, not realizing you know nothing more now than before.
This year as we celebrate our last President’s Day before we become a full-on oligarchy, let’s realize this administration is a fumbling mess. This holiday was originally created to celebrate the birthday of George Washington, who believed in respect, accountability, love for your fellow man, and holding firm to a set of guiding principles. Trump and his swamp people believe in none of these traits. If you step back and look for even a second at what I’ve argued I think you’ll see truth in at least some of it, and that’s all I ask. Shatter this image you have of Trump and you’ll see what he is doing is unconstitutional, immoral, and un-American. I ask nothing more than for you to hold off on being a triggered snowflake for five minutes to actually ask yourself could some of these things be true? I know that your world may need some hope and you think he is it, but I guarantee you he is not someone you should trust. Find another source of hope and light and fight back against the wrongs he has already committed against the people of this country and the world.